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Please close the door and switch on the fun without fail.


Quick note about the Cleopatra aria, before I read the rest of the recap (YAY!): The relevant text is actually the one about the haunting ghost. That's the one you hear in the show, which makes me think it's actually referring to the spectre of Miriam Lass haunting the show. Also, the aria is remixed, so you hear part of it over and over again, which makes it feel like a moment in time, the way Hannibal hears it.

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Yeah, about Cleopatra thinking about haunting her brother? I think the Miriam thing is definitely there, now than you mention it. It just also seemed in line with the whole "woe is me, forever alone, unable to tell anyone what a terrible person I am" theme they had going. I think I was also coming to it with the movie scene in mind--I think in that one, Lecter says something like, "Would she see through the bars of his plight?" It's ~all about him,~ in other words.

I know I will have a lot of things to comment about the recap but that lady in the beginning insisting on a feast was one of Chuck's aunts in Pushing Daisies! I was so excited when I noticed it.

I shrieked "AUNT LILLIAN" at the screen.

1) I have never wanted someone to get murdered so much as Franklyn. I have to put the episode on mute during his scenes because he literally makes me feel sick to my stomach with unending Fremdschaemen. DIIIIIIEEEEEE.

2) Dear Hannibal fandom, do none of you watch Arrested Development? I am in dire need of a NO TOUCHING gif.

Heh, that's pretty much the word that came to me as well. I have a huge secondhand embarrassment squick, but somehow the actor's so likable that I've come to feel really sorry for Franklyn. Like, I didn't expect to be all "oh, honey, no, are you stalking him?" but suddenly I was.

Granted, I gave my TV a vehement side-eye when he started talking about Michael Jackson.

Did they give you... the Clinda? I'm enjoying (as if) the Levofloxacin for my rampaging sinus infection. Bonus: it doesn't make me feel like I'm going to hurl. Aren't antibiotics fun?

Hope the blarg departs very soon.

Heh, not this time--I avoid antibiotics as much as I possibly can, particularly after our family doctor admitted that doctors throw them at people when they're not even necessary because it just makes people feel better to have a prescription. I mean, obviously I needed the Clinda when the cat bit me, but this time around, OTC cold medicine, rest and fluids seems to be doing the trick. I'm tired and not-quite-feverish, but the sore throat and the cough left after two days each, and now my voice is coming back.

The Loneliness of the Long Distance Cannibal and his Rolodex of the The Rude.


all these months later, still reeling from the awesomeness of anglo-filles #13...

...wait, so you're the one who coined the term "Rolodex of the Rude"? Kudos to you, lady!

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And then, Lecter very capably stops the bleeding and stabilizes the guy, because today, for one shining moment, Hannibal is the best at helping.

And was, let's face it, ridiculously hot. Competency kink, I has.

Prayer circle, prayer circle so badly. Especially since TRUMP got renewed. (we'll soon fix it, though: https://twitter.com/maudlina/status/333739978637049857 )

As for people-sorbet, I guess if the wine you use to make it is made from people, you have people-sorbet?

In hindsight, the WHERE DOES HE FIND THE TIME FOR ALL THIS?!?! is utterly hilarious because another prion disease is fatal familial insomnia, which would, duh, no sleep. Although, death in 18mths, so not. I wonder, if there is CJ, how he would have found out. Because, it's one of those things that you don't know you have until you start presenting symptoms. There's no blood test, and once you've got symptoms, it's about 4/5 months to death. Hrm.

And was, let's face it, ridiculously hot. Competency kink, I has.

I admit, it's always attractive when people are really good at what they do. This is why I find it so fascinating that actors have to learn to be really good--or at least appear to be--at so many different things for roles. Like, I was super impressed when Hugh Dancy whipped out that gun at the end of the Molly Shannon episode. If I'd tried to do that, either it would have gone flying into the pool or I would have shot someone.

I kind of, side-eyed Hannibal's decisions a lot here. How lonely is Hannibal? If you Google Maps the drive from Baltimore to Quantico? 1.5hrs. Will's appointment was at 7:30pm, this means Hannibal basically left Baltimore as soon as he realized Will wasn't coming in order to find Will in his lonely lecture hall at Quantico by 9ish. Geez, that's a lotta driving, man.

Also, aaaaaaaaarrrgh, Franklyn. The two times I ran into my therapist outside of her office we both cheerfully were like NOPE NO EYE CONTACT, NO ONE HERE.

Edited at 2013-05-13 01:19 am (UTC)

Hannibal doesn't drive, he teleports!

(Though the mental image of him driving down, classic music blasting, is hilarious.)

Hey, I'm in the recap!! *is @cafecliche* All I could think during that scene was "HOMG CLEO WAS RIGHT."

I just. I loved how absolutely, thoroughly hilarious this episode was. I mean, I've had those "50% nervous giggles, 50% EWWWWWW" moments in just about every episode until now, but this episode had me doing that every five minutes.

And SO MUCH SECONDHAND EMBARRASSMENT re: Franklyn. He is either going to get et really soon, or he is going to very ineptly try to kill someone.

I did totally love how Will recognized who Hannibal really was on SOME level, but shook it off just as quickly. I look forward to finding out whether that subconscious realization will play out in some more awesome stag hallucinations.

Next week on Hannibal: that awkward moment where you were going to kill a serial killer, but that serial killer was totally going to kill you first. Also, hopefully more Gillian. Also also, RENEWAL PLEASE??

Hee! I really enjoyed seeing a few people on Twitter and Tumblr flip out over the beer thing. Because, for real, I was half joking when I said it--he was very clearly giving her The Look, but I couldn't think how in the world beer could be people, so I just threw it out there.

Next week on Hannibal: that awkward moment where you were going to kill a serial killer, but that serial killer was totally going to kill you first.

I was SO PISSED when the preview dumped that on us. Unless that happens in the first five damn minutes, I consider that an unacceptable amount of surprise-ruining. I'm guessing NBC was all "FIGHT! FIGHT!" to get more people to watch, I don't know.

Suddenly imagining Hannibal being a Martha Stewart

Trufax: Anthony Hopkins and Martha Stewart REALLY DID date for a while. This was around the time when "Silence of The Lambs" was released. He kept doing his Hannibal act around her and it creeped her out (he loled) so she broke it off. He took it like a gentleman.

This amuses me endlessly.

That's...magical. HOW did I not know this?

Thank you, you just made my evening. *twirls off*

*Watching Pushing Daisies marathon on Chiller Channel*

And Fuller wants him for Mason Verger (he was unavailable to be Graham!)!?!

"Ballad of the Sad Cannibal" had me crying.

Just like Hannibal.


Excellent recap. I really, really, really enjoyed this episode and your recap took some fairly serious/ewww moments and made them hilarious.

Abigail is back! Yay! I heard a rumor she'd only be in four episodes (so, as she was already in three, the next would be her last) but after this I'm pretty sure that's not the case, as it'd be a fairly odd note to end on.

Hannibal I thought was just.. excellently complicated and sympathetic and also the WORST EVER this episode. Business cards. My twitter feed was just a lot of handflailing and "HANNIBAL WHY"

Heh, I don't know--I felt like everything from "he has a Rolodex of people he could eat" through the "who gets a SPLEEN TRANSPLANT?!" montage was intentionally hilarious. All I really had to do was write it down. Well, except for the part where he actually tracks Caldwell down, that was kind of terrifying. Which is what I like about the show--it's not afraid to have a lot of different emotions going at once, while still maintaining a fairly consistent (if complex) tone.

Fun little details...

For some reason I kept thinking the opera singer would hit a false note, but thankfully, no. I also expected maybe a POV shot from inside via Lecter's head via the ear canal, but again, thankfully, no. The opera scene looked a little like something out of Tarsem's films.

Ellen Greene (another Pushing Daisies alum. Also, perhaps more famously, she was Audrey in Little Shop of Horrors)!

The Room 237 crime scene, complete with heartbeat noises.

(Actually, Will's envisioning of the murders reminds me of Millennium somewhat when Frank Black would have his visions, but Graham's visions are more concrete, not so disjointed, but no less surreal.)

Couldn't stop laughing at the "Lecter gets his ingredients" montage. But this does beg the question of how Lecter goes about obtaining the non-meat items for his menu. I imagine what he doesn't make himself he probably orders by mail or online, because I don't know if, say, Wegmans would have Norton grapes.

Someone, finally, FINALLY had the audacity to put Lecter in a chef's apron.

When Lecter looks at his appointment book, I thought one of the names listed was "Dolarhyde" but I'm not at all certain. If ALL BETS ARE OFF, this could suggest that Dolarhyde is based in Baltimore or somewhere close by if he's one of Lecter's patients.

When I was writing about Hannibal on my own lj, a friend of mine commented about how I describe Lecter as having a "poker face" and she suggested the notion of "blunt affect" which put me in mind of "flat affect" and got me Googling for "affect display" and somehow I forgot about the whole "Person suit" thing in my write-up.

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Re: Fun little details...

For some reason I kept thinking the opera singer would hit a false note

I was totally waiting for that.

When Lecter looks at his appointment book, I thought one of the names listed was "Dolarhyde" but I'm not at all certain.

I just pulled it up and checked (thank you, season pass)--the four names you can read are Franco, Froideveaux (Franklyn), Dawson, and Graham. The one above those kind of looks like "Weatherstone," but don't quote me on that.

I don't know if, say, Wegmans would have Norton grapes.

I linked to this in the previous recap, but apparently the food stylist had a HELL of a time obtaining Norton grapes, so she eventually doctored others to look dark enough. Like, wax and nail polish were involved at some point, IIRC.

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I have to admit, I got to the part with him feverishly pulling out business card/recipe combos, started laughing, and couldn't stop for a good five minutes.

Also, the Dire Ravenstag and Winston the Dog Twitter accounts are my new favorites.

I am confused about why the Ravenstag showed up in the hotel room. Maybe because Will was expecting it to be a Ripper killing?

In hindsight, what I love the most about Franklyn's sad idol-worship and wish that he could know 'great people' is how it mirrors, in a way, Hannibal's real desire to be known. I do believe that in a sense, Hannibal would like Will to figure out that he's the Ripper, and he respects Miriam who was able to figure it out. It's the same basic drive as when he immediately proves that Dr. Gideon isn't the *real* Ripper - he will kill to keep his secret, but he also wants to be recognized for his, er, 'works'.

I laughed soooo haaaaard. Like, the moment we first saw the recipe box even before that, I was just gone. The spleen blender (okay, food processor) was where I just absolutely lost it, though.

I have no idea what was going on with the Ravenstag in the hotel room (maybe we should ask him).

And yeah, you do see that need to be known and appreciated, which is probably going to be what really gets him in trouble (now that Will's going to realize it's him some other way). I just keep wanting to be like--you realize that if you get caught, there's no more dinner parties and opera nights and tailored suits, right? Like, sit and drink some of that brandy, whoever it is, and meditate on this entire fancypants lifestyle that's gonna go right up in flames if you don't start playing things a little bit safer.

Can I just say that Franklyn was, in every scene he was in, remarkably creepy and stalkerish? I mean, obviously he has no idea how terrible his choice in erotomania is, but it really seemed for a moment there that he was all but salivating over Hannibal's strong, manly thighs, in a....sexually icky way. And the "touch" sentence was just ugh ugh ugh UGH.

Tobias is played by Demore Barnes, who also played a terrifying angel in Supernatural in the same awesome, menacingly quiet way of his. So that's a piece of trivia no one cares about.

HOW IS WINE PEOPLE. HOW ARE PEOPLE GRAPES. Why am I asking this? I shouldn't be asking this.

What I wonder is how violent the feast murders were, after Rude Insurance Dude. Did Hannibal kill them all in his fancy, horrible ways, or did he adopt the organ harvester's "OH MY GOD NO THIS IS ALL A TERRIBLE MISUNDERSTANDING OH MY GOD PLEASE DON'T DIE" way, like he did with Hobbs' method.

Edited at 2013-05-13 02:06 am (UTC)

Someone online looked up what could be animal product in beer and wine (and I can't find the damn link now that I've closed too many other tabs), and the likeliest people ingredient is gelatin. Which apparently clarifies the wine and beer? I don't actually know what that means because I don't know much about making alcohol and my cooking skills amount to dialing the nearest place for take out.


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You know, it's funny but one of the most effective ways I'd avoid nightmares or general anxiety after watching slasher films as a kid was to create a fantasy scenario in my head where I was a friend or partner of some kind to the killer and it's exactly that "What if I was the only one who could connect with him? What if I was the only one who could control him?" idea that made them safe and meant I didn't have to go to sleep worrying about being killed in my bed. Perhaps not the healthiest thing, but it worked!

Lecter expresses concern that all of the other psychiatric reindeer laugh and call him "Person Suit"
This had me in stitches.

Oh nooooo, Miriam being the beer is so much worse after Bryan Fuller tweeting that she's grown up Redgy from Dead Like Me (which I'm watching for the first time and now every time she's on screen I'm just D:)

"It's basically Sherlock Holmes if Watson were also Moriarty."
That is the best, most succinct description and I am stealing it forever.

(...)you are in a bad situation when you're like, "I need this guy to die less, go get me Hannibal Lecter."
I hurt from laughing, oh god.

You know, it's funny but one of the most effective ways I'd avoid nightmares or general anxiety after watching slasher films as a kid was to create a fantasy scenario in my head where I was a friend or partner of some kind to the killer and it's exactly that "What if I was the only one who could connect with him? What if I was the only one who could control him?" idea that made them safe and meant I didn't have to go to sleep worrying about being killed in my bed. Perhaps not the healthiest thing, but it worked!

That's actually a pretty good coping method! I mean, fantasy can be a very useful thing; that's why we have it. It's just, you've got the useful self-aware end of the spectrum, and then on the other you've got real-life people who actually write love letters to imprisoned serial killers. I think that's actually an important part of being a writer, allowing yourself to imagine any What If and let your mind wander down every avenue you can think of, on the understanding that you're imagining it.

re: connecting with the killer, I was pondering the idea of wanting to fix someone dangerous, and its kind of a power fantasy in the end. taming the beast, having them at your feet, it would be the ultimate feeling of control wouldn't it?

*listens to Night Surgeon*

Speaking of Repo, Abigail has been giving me serious Shilo Wallace vibes.

Here is the brilliance of this show: during Franklyn's office visits, I found myself thinking, "Here is one of the most purely horrible characters ever created, and yet the one who is making me feel itchy-under-the-skin creeped out is the poor pathetic dweeb who just wants someone impressive to love him." And I am not a Lecter fangirl at all, beyond being fascinated by the presentation of and reactions to the character. Poor Franklyn, who can't manage to be less unsettling than THE WORST SERIAL KILLER. It's a fascinating commentary on how much we judge people on how they present themselves and how we respond to that presentation.

This episode was the closest one yet to being outright comedy, in an incredibly dark way, but still. So much absurd juxtaposition and outlandishness. I loved it, but also hope they'll be sparing with it, even as I recognize the purpose of it. Sometimes we need to be distanced from the relentless horror to be able to handle the character. But I also want to hold on to as much of that as possible, as otherwise we start going down the path of the OTHER Hannibal, and we don't need another one of those.

Well, of course, it was called Sorbet, which is the palate cleanser. I think it was nice to have a lighter episode before we head into the back half of the season. I can't imagine that things are going to ramp down any from here; there isn't room.

(Also this was originally supposed to be episode 3 which is why there's a handful of continuity errors.)

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A lot of awkward moments in this ep (Franklyn), but also some great ones. I loved the part with Gillian Anderson, and while I couldn't quite figure out why Hannibal was seeing her, I did get the sense that she was someone he respected which I found interesting. The whole culinary rampage thing was hilarious and insane, a rolodex full of potential ingredients o_O, but seriously where did he find the time. And that moment at the end before Will left the kitchen, he had this expression I couldn't quite interpret, but it almost felt like he'd figured Hannibal out.

Yeah, between the look he gave Lecter at the ambulance and the look in the kitchen--I felt like something was happening, but I just could not figure out what.

And to think that my one quibble with the film Ravenous was that there wasn't enough cannibalism in it...

I was happy to see someone respond to a Hannibal post on tumblr with a Ravenous gif.

Yegads. With the hearts and the livers and the kidneys and the cannibal feasts . . . how do you stand it?? If you weren't so hilarious, I'd be hiding under the bed screaming right about now, and all I'm doing is reading the recaps.

Also, between the gifs and the Dire Ravenstag chatting up Fuller on Twitter, it must be absolutely amazing to watch your work take on a life of its own. :-) Kudos!

Heh, thanks. Honestly, I kept having to watch (rewatch!) the meat-butchering scenes through my fingers, because that kind of thing grosses me out no matter where it came from. I think that's why it helps that it was actually really funny in the episode itself--seriously, I basically transcribed exactly what happened, it's funny because it already was.

People have done fun things with other things I've written over the years, but the Dire Ravenstag is just a whole other level, even considering that only the nickname came from me. I mean, it's a fictional creature who exists in the mind of another fictional character, and suddenly it's on Twitter talking to people. (I KNOW it has to be one of y'all, God bless.) And now it's BFF with Will's dog.

@DireRavenstag: Everyone should follow @winston_graham. He’s my sleepwalking Will stalking bro.

@winston_graham: @DireRavenstag and i are bros pic.twitter.com/tcf6YH3TvE

@DireRavenstag: @winston_graham I think our bromantic ship name should be Winstag.

So that was fantastic.

This episode made me legit sad for the Saddest Little Cannibal. Why can't anyone just love him?! And become a weird serial killer/friend/lover/family person for him?! Is that really asking so much? Sigh. It's a sign of the genius of the writers and actors that I almost sort of wish that they really all COULD just wind up being friends and serial killers and cannibals. I like them all so much, and they are all sort of awkward and brilliant and lonely. Which is ever so wrong.

What's really interesting about that it seems more a matter of degrees than "nobody loves him." He's got a number of relationships developing, albeit slowly and uncertainly--Will, Alana, Abigail, the Crawfords even. Even Bedelia was like, "I bother with you and your person suit because I like you." But none of these people have actually just flat-out rejected him. Maybe he's "connecting" with people by, uh, eating them (controlling them, asserting superiority over them) or tricking them into eating his cooking because... he's afraid to be more assertive than that? He goes out and murders people on a whim but he's afraid of personal connection? Seriously, I can't get over how far he went with Alana and then totally let it fizzle. And people can actually identify with that kind of anxiety and hesitation, which is why I think everyone had such a huge reaction to this episode.

Will hangs back in the darkness and watches Lecter at work, catching his eye for a moment. He seems to have some kind of realization--"We are looking for a killer with surgical skill! He's pretty good at... wait... " But the big picture doesn't seem to come together for him yet.

Hmm, that scene read to me more as Will being like, "Woah dang, look at him being The Best At Helping, with the competence!" Which I thought was supported by him later asking why Lecter stopped being a surgeon.

I really kind of hope that's what it was. Somehow I don't want him to figure things out just yet.

Discovering that Mads Mikkelsen does all the on-screen food prep reminds me irresistibly of watching Charles Dance skin a deer on-screen during the first season of Game of Thrones. My attention kept wandering from the actual content of the scene to watching him because I was so fucking impressed.

I love how the show both sympathizes with and mocks sympathy for Hannibal. It's such a fascinating dance.

I wonder if the wine symbolism is supposed to be Hannibal saying that it's not an either/or thing? But I'm not sure what the either/or is supposed to be. Hmmm.

I feel very odd about my binder of printed-out recipes now. Also inferior because no recipe I have is written out in gorgeous copperplate handwriting. (Also also, how the hell does he keep his recipe cards that clean?)

ETA: has anyone taken Emo Cannibal as their band name yet? Because I'm calling dibs.

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Someone called Miriam's Dying Words, but not Emo Cannibal yet, no. Heh.

I love how the show both sympathizes with and mocks sympathy for Hannibal. It's such a fascinating dance.

I love that--and with such a light touch, too. People really, really need to be reminded that that inner emotional life is there, sure, but HE IS ALSO JUST REALLY THE WORST. Because, I'll be honest, when I saw someone refer to him as "Honeyball," a little something inside me died and I'll never get it back.

"What if I was the only one who could connect with him? What if I was the only one who could control him?"

I twitch every time i see this trope. I mean, for those to whom this appeals, carry on and godspeed, but it's the absolute opposite of what I like about Hannibal Lecter. The appeal of the character for me - and the instant Mary Sue that happens for a whoooole lotta the rest of the fandom, c.f. Abigail The Protege/Daughter fanfiction - is what if I could be free to straight up murder rude people TOO? Because I think a lot of us spend portions of our day (e.g. morning commute) wishing we could murder rude people, and Hannibal provides a framework in which a person could do that and also be super fabulous and clever all the time.

With that in mind, I will be super surprised if Hannibal decided to eat Miriam Lass. At one point in this ep he tells Alana that Miriam's loss was tragic, and it's convincing. I believe he regrets the necessity of killing her. If he only eats/displays the people he thinks of as pigs, and he doesn't think of Miriam as a pig, doesn't it follow that he didn't eat her? I know we've heard Hannibal speak of eating people he respects before, but it's usually just to scare them, because he thinks that's funny. (He is the actual worst.)

To take a more logical tack, if he HAD eaten Miriam, wouldn't he have discarded the excess parts two years ago? If she'd all gone to beer, why would he have a freezer-fresh arm lying around? I suppose it's conceivable that he could have saved the arm to poke at Jack Crawford, but if that were the reason, why wait?

what if I could be free to straight up murder rude people TOO? Hannibal provides a framework in which a person could do that and also be super fabulous and clever all the time.

ahahaha. I think that's another reason the character is so, so popular. (But he would never hurt you, he would only hurt the people you wanted revenge on, because you are so special, etc.)

To take a more logical tack, if he HAD eaten Miriam, wouldn't he have discarded the excess parts two years ago? If she'd all gone to beer, why would he have a freezer-fresh arm lying around? I suppose it's conceivable that he could have saved the arm to poke at Jack Crawford, but if that were the reason, why wait?

I have a lot of questions about the whole Miriam thing, yeah. Maybe the beer was just infused with... some of her... or something. Fuller didn't explicitly confirm that, either. But the "two years" thing is kind of suggestive. I don't even knoooow.

So I've been researching the 1980s Satanic panics for my master's thesis for the last seven months or so. And I spent about eight hours today reading Hal Lindsey's Satan is Alive and Well on Planet Earth, which is basically about how Satan is inescapable because every human -ism and -ology (politics, the arts, religion, mass media, etc.) ever created has been touched by Satan because Satan holds the title deed to the planet.

And when I couldn't take it any more, I went to Tumblr to scroll through pictures of Will Graham. And then I read this recap and cackled like a loon in my apartment, probably scaring my neighbors.

Why my brain wanted to go to HANNIBAL to cleanse its palate of Satan, I have no idea.

Awesome job with the recap. Highlight of my weekend. Loved this episode. Loved Gillian Anderson. Though, seeing her blonde instead of a redhead confused my old-school X-FILES-loving heart. Moar Gillian Anderson!

After the scene where Will dreams of himself and Abigail, I had to wonder: Does Will not have an actual office? The grounds at Quantico have enough space to let him have a whole lecture hall to himself?

I'm a massive fan of BREAKING BAD, and this show is edging it out for "Most Beautifully Shot Show on Television." "Sorbet" didn't have quite the same flair as, say, the angel-corpses, but still. It's ridiculous.

I really hope NBC renews this because, after looking at their schedule, they're going to have a bunch of holes for mid-season. Might as well keep this one around.

Yeah, Fuller tweeted that it would be picked up for mid-season if it were picked up at all.

You know, I kept wondering that about Will's lecture hall--I can't remember which episode it was, but at some point I realized that the table is his own personal desk, and that the hall is where he hangs out, like it's actually his personal classroom? Whenever he manages to be there and is not, in fact, running around with SWAT teams? I... I want a desk that big.

(Heh, glad to be of service.)

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