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Bluebell's Triple Chocolate ice cream is the food of the frickin' gods. It's two kinds of chocolate ice cream (Dutch and milk, I think?), a meager swirl of vanilla (just for variety; they're not cheating you out of your chocolate), and a thick vein of sundae sauce. You put a bowl of it in the microwave for twenty seconds, and fnnnaghhhhhhhh.

I just thought you should know.

Reread Dracula over the last couple of days. You know, as much as I love that book--I have the illustrated Greg Hildebrandt hardback, the one I was obsessed with when I was thirteen--I don't know that I've ever read it cover to cover before, without skimming at all (which is how you know my medication's finally adjusting, too--that I can even read again). I think what happens is that the Jonathan Harker chapters at the beginning start off pretty well, but halfway through those Stoker just gets so incredibly bogged down in the physical details of the castle and Harker running around trying to escape, and I start to lose consciousness.

It gets better after that, though--maybe I'm just older now and feel more interest in things that lost me when I was thirteen, like furniture shopping. It's a lot easier to read about the characters, essentially, researching. Actually, I find that fascinating now--I was always struck by the way Stoker essentially wrote a multimedia novel (letters, memoranda, telegrams, newspaper articles, phonograph transcripts) a hundred years before people really started to get into that kind of thing. I mean, it's not just an epistolary novel: he actually takes advantage of (describing) a variety of different technologies and viewpoints, and someday, someone is going to get the bright idea to reissue the novel as a multimedia CD-rom of some kind. I think this must have, in part, inspired the way I did the Black Ribbon website without my even realizing it.

But what really struck me, for the first time consciously, was the way that the book is essentially about research. The actual running-around action parts are buried through a thick layer of "I collated his letters" and "I typed up his diary" and "she transcribed my recordings." And Stoker actually manages to make it interesting, or at least it's interesting to me now that I'm in my late twenties--this idea of people struggling to conquer a mass of documentation.

The other thing that struck me was--well, I don't know if you've read any criticism on Dracula, but even the most cursory Halloween special on A&E will talk about how misogynist some of the imagery is. Women are punished for being penetrated (by fangs) and for any sign of sexual desire. A woman who is assaulted against her will is viewed as hopelessly tainted. The heroine is religious, chaste and pure; the three "brides" are lascivious and obscene. The vampires are destroyed by being re-penetrated "correctly," by the phallic stake of the patriarchy. And so on, etc.

Here's my question: how does that view of the book explain this?
  • A Lucy letter: "Why can't they let a girl marry three men, or as many as want her, and save all this trouble? But this is heresy, and I must not say it."


  • Seward's diary: "When it was all over, we were standing beside Arthur, who, poor fellow, was speaking of his part in the operation where his blood had been transfused to his Lucy's veins. I could see Van Helsing's face grow white and purple by turns. Arthur was saying that he felt since then as if they two had been really married, and that she was his wife in the sight of God. None of us said a word of the other operations, and none of us ever shall." Which is to say, Lucy has received "the blood of four strong men" in the course of her illness.


  • Van Helsing: "For why should I give myself so much labor and so much of sorrow? I have come here from my own land to do what I can of good, at the first to please my friend John, and then to help a sweet young lady, whom too, I come to love."


  • Jonathan Harker: ""Dr. Van Helsing, you love Mina, I know. Oh, do something to save her. It cannot have gone too far yet. Guard her while I look for him!"


  • Van Helsing again: "And oh, Madam Mina, my dear, my dear, may we who love you be there to see, when that red scar, the sign of God's knowledge of what has been, shall pass away, and leave your forehead as pure as the heart we know."
I think the book does separate out carnal desire (the vampires) from chaste love (what the various men feel for Mina, uncomplicated by any desire to marry her. I mean, other than Jonathan). And you can argue that this in and of itself is some kind of sexist madonna/whore complex, or that women are only valued on pedestals, or whatever. But I really do think there is a strong element of respect and esteem for Mina, her courage, her intelligence. Not only that, but she--and while she is alive, Lucy as well--commands the love of multiple men, and while I'm sure this is meant to be a pure and chaste love for many of them, the language is the same as that of romantic love. They manage not to say "I love you" directly to Mina, but they frequently say "we love her," the same as they say "we loved Lucy," and this is from men who wanted to marry Lucy. And this isn't even touching on that polygamist subtext, where a woman could marry "as many as want her," and three different men do say "I love you," and she ends up "married in the sight of God" to four different men. I'm just saying, where female sexuality is thwarted in one direction, it seems to have a surprising, if indirect, expression in another.

To an extent, yes, this female-centric view is dulled by some hidebound Victorian ideas about women: Mina has "man's brain and woman's heart," which is a lovely compliment until you stop and think about it; their need to keep her out of their plans towards the end if only because she is an actual liability now that Dracula can possibly read her mind is combined with a belief earlier in the book that all this fighting the evil undead is just too horrible for a woman to be involved. But time and time again they talk about how wonderful and clever and hard-working she is; she takes the minutes at their meetings, types up journals and transcripts, contributes valuable information through her own diaries, and keeps the train timetables memorized. Towards the end, it's Mina who actually sits down with her diary and logics out by what means Dracula must be making the final leg of his journey, and they praise her for it. She is treated as an invaluable member of the team, and they regret the moment when she has to withdraw because she, by no fault of her own or her sex, has become a liability.

What I'm saying is, you can point to how this is some kind of statement about how the ideal Victorian woman should be chaste and forbearing and religious (there is a whole lot of weepin' and prayin', as the professor I had who taught the Sentimental Novel course would say), but Stoker throws a completely novel element into that mix--the ideal woman in his book is intelligent, capable, brave, and equal (and at times superior!) to the men in her logical abilities. You see the Woman as Moral Superior thing all the time--but how often do you see, in Victorian literature, Woman as Intellectual Equal? And not only that, but the men love her and devote themselves to her for it. The gender dynamic is pretty complex, is what I'm saying, and Stoker's portrayal of Mina in particular has a lot of feminist value.

Anyhoo. I've been going through Literary Gothic, your friend and mine, for all my old Gothic lit links--not because I didn't save a lot of texts to my hard drive (I did), but because I have so many that I can't remember what they're all about, or which ones are worth reading first. So, as I go back through a lot of them, I'm going to post a link or two each day, to ration them out rather than overwhelm y'all with dozens at once.

First of all: [info]particle_person has a new story transcribed at [info]talesfromthefen.

Today's author: Jerome K. Jerome. I love him so much.

"The Dancing Partner." I absolutely love this one.
"The Man of Science." I love the last paragraph, for some reason.
Told After Supper. A longer collection of... basically, four or five ghost story parodies, linked by about four or five bowls of whiskey punch. Choice quotes:

"The Governor suggested palming off some other Emily's grave upon the poor thing, but, as luck would have it, there did not seem to have been an Emily of any sort buried anywhere for miles round. I never came across a neighbourhood so utterly destitute of dead Emilies."

"One night he went to bed. There was nothing very extraordinary about that, I admit. He often did go to bed of a night."

"I do not, however, believe I am doing his memory an injustice in believing that he was not entirely unconnected with the death, and subsequent burial, of a gentleman who used to play the harp with his toes."

"I asked [the ghost] what tobacco he used, and he replied, 'The ghost of cut cavendish, as a rule.' "

"How do you manage when there isn't any cock handy?"

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justjayj From: [info]justjayj Date: October 3rd, 2006 06:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
You love JKJ? Probably a stupid question, then, but have you read To Say Nothing of the Dog? It's a big ol' love letter to the guy. It's also one of my comfort books--one I can pick up at any time, open to any page, and just start reading.
pigsnicket From: [info]pigsnicket Date: October 3rd, 2006 07:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love that book!
I've always wanted to get a cat and name it Penwiper as well. One day, one day...
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misslucyjane From: [info]misslucyjane Date: October 3rd, 2006 06:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
The comm [info]dracula1897 is posting the entire text in real time, which has spurred me to want to read it again--I haven't read it since high school.

One scene that's always stuck with me is when Mina describes transcribing Dr. Seward's phonograph diary and the tone of his voice is heartbreaking. (I don't remember the exact words--like I said, been a long time.)

Nothing useful to contribute--I guess this boils down to "yeah, I liked it too."
cleolinda From: [info]cleolinda Date: October 3rd, 2006 07:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh my God, that's fantastic--the usernames! The icons! And I had noticed that I was reading something dated October 1st at one point--this is exactly the time to do it.

And I know exactly the part you're talking about--she says that she'll type it up so that no one will ever have to hear the emotion in the voice, to hear him being that vulnerable again.
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starr234 From: [info]starr234 Date: October 3rd, 2006 06:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
Your mention of Bluebell makes me sad. When I moved from Houston to Pittsburgh I was ok, because they'll ship anywhere in the continental US. When I moved from Pittsburgh to Canada, I entered this hellish world where it's not possible to get good vanilla ice cream anymore. And vanilla ice cream is pretty important, you know. My sadness knows no bounds.

phoebesmum From: [info]phoebesmum Date: October 3rd, 2006 07:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
Jerome was an extraordinarily wise man. The part in Three Men in a Boat where he starts to read a medical book and quickly realises he has everything in it? Which of us hasn't done that? And I've always loved the bit about his landlady's hideous china dog, and how one day - he vastly over-estimated the 'one day' - it'll be worth a fortune for its antique rarity. Plus the boys - I was so surprised when, one day, I realised they really were just boys - went boating along all the places I've always lived, many of which are much unchanged.
amberdulen From: [info]amberdulen Date: October 3rd, 2006 07:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
Three Men In a Boat = the world's first truly great road trip.
crostfingrs From: [info]crostfingrs Date: October 3rd, 2006 07:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
Those quotes sound wonderfully familiar! I've just realized that I've read all the short comic ghost stories - separately, I think - in a collection I once had of Red Skelton's favorite ghost stories for young readers. Wow, that takes me back. But I certainly didn't remember that they were by the author who gave me the Uncle Podger story in "Three Men," so big big thanks!

And big thanks for the clockwork dancer and man pursued, as well - wonderful stories. I think I need a brandy, now, myself . . .
eldritch_flame From: [info]eldritch_flame Date: October 3rd, 2006 07:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm not sure if you've heard of the Capuchin monk's crypt before. I only just found out about it in my Archaeology of Death class, and it seemed kinda like some of the stuff you'd linked to before, and also fit in with the whole close-to-Halloween atmosphere, so I thought I'd bring it to your attention. There are some pretty good pictures of it up at flickr.



cleolinda From: [info]cleolinda Date: October 3rd, 2006 08:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
Whoa. Dude. Where is it?
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wiliqueen From: [info]wiliqueen Date: October 3rd, 2006 07:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love you an unbelievable amount for the Dracula comments. I'm so tired of seeing it stuffed into the same-old-same-old "misogynist Victorian" box without a second look.

And I've always refused to feel like some kind of traitor to feminism for disagreeing. Glad to have a bit more company! :-D
cleolinda From: [info]cleolinda Date: October 3rd, 2006 08:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
What I find so fascinating about the book is that I think the patriarchy-misogyny thing is totally there--or it is, at least, in the traditional vampire lore, which it's not like Stoker made up out of whole cloth or anything. It's a completely valid interpretation. But then there's this wholly contradictory feminist streak that exists right alongside it--the two elements aren't mutually exclusive at all, but exist together. I seriously don't know how he managed that, given that I doubt any of it was consciously done.
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mysticowl From: [info]mysticowl Date: October 3rd, 2006 07:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
I really should read more of Jerome K. Jerome. His Three Men in a Boat To Say Nothing About the Dog is genius! Especially the part of Uncle Podger and the portrait and Montmorency in the Cat.
particle_person From: [info]particle_person Date: October 3rd, 2006 08:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
the book is essentially about research

Quick! To The Historian! (This has been your periodic reminder that you have unbelievable crack waiting for you.) Seriously, Kostova picked up on that point and ran with it. I badly need to re-read it now.

Also: Awww, thanks for pimping.
edda From: [info]edda Date: October 3rd, 2006 08:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oooooh scary story links! I'm always looking for some good horror fiction in October!

Currently I'm reading Thomas Tryon's Harvest Home, which...I think I can tell what's coming, and parts of it reek of that particular brand of florid prose that seems to afflict a lot of novels from the '70s, but...good stuff. I got put onto him when AMC's "Fear Friday" last week showed The Other, which is based on one of his novels as well. I gotta say, I'm likin' it.
lilitou From: [info]lilitou Date: October 3rd, 2006 09:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oooh, The Other is a wicked fun book, even if it suffers from the same problem you describe for Harvest Home. I didn't get to see the movie until years after reading the book, but I think they did a great job with it. I haven't read Harvest Home, though. Perhaps I will throw it onto my library list.
crimsnfirestorm From: [info]crimsnfirestorm Date: October 3rd, 2006 08:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love the quotes. I'm definitely reading that now.
And thank you for letting me know that I am not the only person on earth who microwaves her ice cream =]
wmetoile From: [info]wmetoile Date: October 3rd, 2006 09:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
Cleo, the next time you have a free-pimping-of-various-stuff day, would you mind mentioning the new column I'll be writing for Premiere.com, Trailer Stash? It's a weekly commentary/snark column about new movie trailers and I'm indecently excited about it. Will repay you with intel on The Other Boleyn Girl (one of my coworkers is set-visiting).

On that note, I don't know if you watched the series premiere of Dexter on Showtime the other night, but it was followed by a preview for the miniseries (I think) The Tudors. Jonathan Rhys Meyers is Henry VII . . . hott.
lylassandra From: [info]lylassandra Date: October 3rd, 2006 09:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
From Carrie Vaughn's Kitty Goes to Washington, a book about a werewolf DJ that was actually pretty good:

Kitty: "[Dracula is] about a lot of other things: sexuality, religion, reverse imperialism, and xenophobia. But what it's really about is saving the world through superior office technology. Think about it. They make such a big deal about their typewriters, phonographs, stenography--this was like the technothriller of its day. They ended up solving everything because Mina is really great at data entry and collating. What do you think?"

Caller: "Um... I think that may be a stretch."

Kitty: "Have you even read the book?"

Caller: "Um, no. But I've seen every movie version of it!"

Kitty: "All right, which is your favorite?"

Caller: "The one with Keanu Reeves!"

Kitty: "Why am I not surprised?"
greyduck From: [info]greyduck Date: October 3rd, 2006 10:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm having a Mystery Science Theater flashback, for some reason. Yes, yes, it's "Space Children," preceded by the short film "Century 21 Calling," which is less about real estate than you might suspect ("Let's start Microsoft here!"), but is high on the list of Best Brains' best short film riffs ("Those monorail developers have a one-track mind."). The host segment after the short involves Pearl Forrester trying to take over the world through... more efficient "officing."

So maybe you kinda had to be there. Hmm.

Anyway: That's a very interesting way to look at it, and is almost enough to make me go back and read that thing again. (I said, "almost.")
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kpachayagolobka From: [info]kpachayagolobka Date: October 3rd, 2006 09:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'll leave another comment when I get back to Memphis (and my books), but I have some really interesting articles on the Dracula subject you might like. We read it for a 19th C Brit Lit course this past year and for pulp fiction, it's stunning. I ended up writing my final paper on it and am now doing my senior paper on the book.
cleolinda From: [info]cleolinda Date: October 3rd, 2006 11:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oooo. Seriously, it's one of those books that might not be that great on the first read, when you're reading it for plot, but it's more rewarding the more you think about it.
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gracefulfool From: [info]gracefulfool Date: October 3rd, 2006 10:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
You've no idea how excited I am at this moment! I have never, ever, ever, in my entire life come across somebody who knew Jerome K. Jerome! Three Men In A Boat is my favorite book of all time! There are not enough exclamation points in existence to suffice on this comment!!!!!!!!!!!
tecno_fairy From: [info]tecno_fairy Date: October 3rd, 2006 10:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
That was really interesting to read. I studied Dracula for A Level English Lit, as a comparison text to The Picture of Dorien Gray. We were encouraged to discover and debate as many different ideas in the book(s) as we could - love, madness, fin de siecle 'paranois' of sorts - the ways in which the world was changing at the turn of the century; foreign travel, science versus religion, new technologies and new ways of living. While the subject of misogyny always comes up (especially if you have a female teacher!) I think we reached very much the same conclusions that you did - the role of women was starting to change (or expand) towards the turn of the century, and I think maybe Stoker is taking into account the way a lot of people feared this change and attempted to stop it going any further (the number of men who campaigned against women's right to vote, etc) through the persecution of Mina - a woman who is enbracing new technology and living a more 'modern' sort of existance - by Dracula, who represents a more archaic order (women being repressed and punished by penetration, etc).

Ooh, Helen would have been so proud! At least I didn't learn all of that for nothing!
cleolinda From: [info]cleolinda Date: October 3rd, 2006 11:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hee!

That's actually really interesting, though--to put the repression/punishment over in the Dracula column rather than with the Englishmen, even though they're the ones perpetrating it, basically.

Oddly, of all the things I've studied, I have never studied Dracula in class. I'm just this geeky about it naturally.
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okibi_banshi From: [info]okibi_banshi Date: October 3rd, 2006 10:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Randomly and having nothing to do with Dracula:

I don't know how relevant this is to you or your friends list but I found it
interesting.
Probably because I'm too young to remember Cinderella's actual hair color from the movie and it's been years since I watched my copy, but I never knew that.
cleolinda From: [info]cleolinda Date: October 3rd, 2006 11:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree with her point--I actually saw something last week about Cinderella's dress actually being a pearly white--but man, is she vehement about it.
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serizawa3000 From: [info]serizawa3000 Date: October 3rd, 2006 10:48 pm (UTC) (Link)

silly question

Perchance have you read Anno Dracula, by Kim Newman? It's a sort of alternate universe story where Dracula wasn't defeated. As a result of his actions, vampires are "outed." The really fun part of Anno Dracula consists of all the cameo appearances of fictional characters and real people from the period... Florence Stoker, Arthur Holmwood, Mina Harker, Oscar Wilde, Basil Hallward, Lord Ruthven, Graf Orlock, John Merrick, Mycroft Holmes, Fu Manchu, and the like (including one character Stoker created for Dracula but never used: Kate Reed, a lady journalist who becomes a vampire. There's three novels in the Anno Dracula series, and Newman has enough material for a fourth. The Bloody Red Baron (the second book) is probably my favorite, with its focus on First World War aerial combat... and a bit where Manfred von Richthofen finally kills one of his more tenacious enemies. The third book, Judgement of Tears (aka Dracula Cha Cha Cha) is pretty fun, set in Rome in 1959, featuring a vampire James Bond, Orson Welles on the set of a Jason and the Argonauts film directed by Fritz Lang and starring Kirk Douglas.

Thing is, I'm not even really into vampire fiction all that much (I read Dracula, I Am Legend, the aforementioned Anno Dracula, and Lost Souls, but that's it)... but I like Kim Newman's writing a lot. It puzzles me that he doesn't sell very well over here (he's a friend and contemporary of Neil Gaiman, for corn's sake), because he's really good at what he does. I've had to browse used bookshops to find the Anno Dracula books, for the most part. Either that or look around at a con, or maybe Alibris...
cleolinda From: [info]cleolinda Date: October 3rd, 2006 11:24 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: silly question

Wow. I haven't, but--wow, Kate Reed. It's probably odd that that's what caught me the most, but there's a similar character in Portrait of a Lady (I mean, minus the vampirism) that I loved.

Just offhand, it kind of sounds like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, which I loved--probably very different in the execution, but those comics (graphic novels, whatever) are chock full of borrowed characters like that.
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singeaddams From: [info]singeaddams Date: October 4th, 2006 12:08 am (UTC) (Link)
YES! Someone who sees the same things I do! That makes me so happy. (That and the thought that Dracula's blood affected Mina's son, muahaha.)

And your parody of the typical Freudian-gasbag introduction just about killed me, it was so spot-on. It's such a great and scary story, why do people have to psychoanalyze all the juice out of it? Pun intended.
cleolinda From: [info]cleolinda Date: October 4th, 2006 12:31 am (UTC) (Link)
The sad thing is, that wasn't even a parody--that is literally what I have read/heard about it.
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brainchild129 From: [info]brainchild129 Date: October 4th, 2006 12:41 am (UTC) (Link)
In addition to the interesting observations you and some of the other posters have made about Dracula, I'm fascinated at how Lucy and Mina can be viewed as examples of old school gothic heroine vs. "modern" (by Victorian standards) gothic heroine.

Lucy is the kind of heroine you would have seen in the early gothic novels of the 1700/1800s -- you know the type: beautiful, noble, romantic, naive, kind, adored by everyone and everything, and completely ineffectual against the forces of evil around her. I've joked before that she's such a girly teenager sort that you can practically see the hearts over her Is in her journal sections. (and despite what Francis Ford Coppola and James Hart think, not a complete whorebitch trampslut who would have been shoved in a sanitarium faster than you can say "nymphomaniac".)

Mina, on the other hand, is the "new" sort of gothic heroine. She's a working girl of a middle class background, and already married to an equally middle class goober. As you guys have noted, though, she is smart and observant and a calming presence and helps Our Heroes win the day through research and knowledge of mundane things like the daily train schedule, and is put into peril only when Our Heroes decide she is too delicate for some vampire hunting action because she's a giirrrrl. She's perceived as so strong that she is not lured into vampirism like Lucy, but forced into it (isn't she likened to a kitten having its head dunked into a saucer to make it drink?). True, she doesn't perform any great feats, either, but she actually takes some action to try and save her friends, and later herself. She's a great character, and I wish someday that a movie adaptation could properly represent this smart, steady woman in a role other than Love Interest/Midnight Snack.

(Also, I just have to say that Van Helsing's admiration of Mina is not just a little creepy. It's not overtly sexual, of course, it's just that he goes into raptures whenever she speaks or others speak of her, over and over, to the point where I think "Jesus, Abe, you know she's already married, right?")

...and now I'm going to move on, because I could analyze this book all night.
cleolinda From: [info]cleolinda Date: October 4th, 2006 01:07 am (UTC) (Link)
That's so true about Lucy--she's practically writing Arthur's name all over her Trapper Keeper. It's really sweet, actually, and--really, Stoker gets an amazing range of tones across. Lucy is clearly a very flirtatious but fundamentally sweet girl--she starts off teasing Quincey but by the end of his proposal she's crying and feels awful.

And actually? Jonathan is way more awesome than in pretty much any movie adaptation I have ever seen. Everyone who comes in contact with him mentions how brave or intelligent or whatever he is. Also, he's got that knife.

(I have a dream that someday I will be allowed to screenwrite a new movie adaptation.)
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dakiwiboid From: [info]dakiwiboid Date: October 4th, 2006 12:47 am (UTC) (Link)

More on Dracula!

[info]dracula_1897 is actually posting things on the dates they take place in the story, which is cooler than cool! I think it's wonderful that Stoker's ideal woman also rides a bicycle and transcribes dictation directly into a typewriter, which was a downright rare skill in those days, one which earned MALE secretaries big bucks!
soleta_nf From: [info]soleta_nf Date: October 4th, 2006 04:36 am (UTC) (Link)
Y'know, I would love to read one of your academic essays sometime. I have a Master's in history, and can tell that you have a lot to offer academia. Do you have any plans to go farther in that world beyond a Master's? We certainly don't want to lose you from fandom, but it would be fun to see you in both. We need more academics with whimsy.
cleolinda From: [info]cleolinda Date: October 4th, 2006 08:55 am (UTC) (Link)
I think whimsy is a good word for it. But I'm torn, because part of me has always liked the idea of bringing whimsy (back? Did they ever have it?) to academia, and part of me wants to run screaming. I seriously never, ever want to write a paper again, which is kind of bad because I think I do have one more 600-level seminar before I get my MFA. Research seems to appeal to me only if no one's actually making me do it for a grade (or a scholarly publication, I suppose).

Here's the best part: I have never, at any point, majored in English literature. I was a Spanish major/French minor, and even now my MFA is in creative writing. It's just that, at the university where I'm grad studenting, the creative writing degree has a whoooooole lot of lit requirements. I got all my workshops out of the way early and have been in lit classes ever since. Which has been nice, because while I was at a liberal arts undergrad where I did take some good (English) lit courses, I think took Brit survey and Dante. I did have an extremely good teacher I got both my freshman and senior year in high school, though.
megmatthews20 From: [info]megmatthews20 Date: October 4th, 2006 05:03 am (UTC) (Link)
On a note not related to Dracula (unless we go by actor linkage in which case Dominic Monahan from Lost is on LOTR with Orlando Bloom who is on POTC with the lovely Depp who was on Edward Scissorhands with Winona who had that shockingly bad accent (or was that Keanu?) in Dracula. I guess by linkage logic we're all connected, but anyway) Lost tomorrow! ZOMG yay!

Just saying. ^_^

Looking forward to your Lost forums.

cheers!
bardintraining From: [info]bardintraining Date: October 4th, 2006 05:09 am (UTC) (Link)
It was Keanu and Winona being so wooden all they had to do was rock-paper-scissors to see who gets to be the stake through Dracula's heart.
Although Winona's pointier, so she might get the job done faster.
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bardintraining From: [info]bardintraining Date: October 4th, 2006 05:07 am (UTC) (Link)
Geez...there are a lot of dead Emilies in most places.
Makes me feel kind of bad for being an alive one.
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