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@anngeeksout: Exposing the love/hate relationship fans have with beloved fantasy franchises, in which I get quoted on something other than Twilight! (But also Twilight.)

Counter-programming/Secret Life is ready to go, so I'll probably post that pretty early tomorrow. I have Thoughts on Deathly Hallows, but I am tired. I'm definitely going to try to see it again in the next few days. First, however, I will leave you with two actualfax tweets I posted from inside the theater last night (during the hour we had waiting for it to start):


@cleolinda: We just had, like, a flash mob wizard battle. Then a referee popped up and yelled, "UNNECESSARY QUAFFLING!"

@cleolinda: A manager looked up at the audience and said, baffled, "I didn't have nothin' to do with that."



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You always seem to have such fun audiences for these movies.

When I saw it at midnight last night, before it started a bunch of kids from my university's theater department performed the beginning of A Very Potter Musical. There was much rejoicing.

Hah!

AVPM/S have warped my thinking - it took a good, long moment for me to realize that it was Yaxley speaking at Malfoy Manor. I was all: "But isn't Yaxley black?"

Thanks, AVPM.

At 11:01 five teenaged girls in our theatre stood up and yelled, "One hour until the Ministry falls!"

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Mine had a funny reaction to Mars Needs Moms. The trailer ended and the entire audience very clearly went, "Ehhhhh." I just find it hilarious that as a group we were unimpressed.

My sister in law got a spell cast on her by Professor Snape and Hagrid when we walked into the theater for the showing we went to. We also watched a dementor chase some poor middle school age kid around the theater.

In the theatre I was in, myself and a couple of girls I met there rallied the entire theatre into doing the Potter Puppet Pals song the Mysterious Ticking Noise. It was all kinds of amazing.

Oh, fandom. Never change.

Is Unnecessary Quaffling your next garage band?

More proof I live in Dullsville. Nothing like that would ever happen in any of our movie theaters!

You know, I hated Azkaban when it came out, because that book is my absolute favorite, but as time has worn on, it's grown on me, and is probably my second favorite of the films now. I think, at some critical point, you have to look at films and books and go, "These are different animals. These are stories set in the same world and with the same characters, and while the fundamentals remain true, they are NOT THE SAME." It's the only way to get peace over it, particularly if you're a canon whore (as I am) and happen to love some of the details/characters that get left out.

As much as I appreciate Tolkien's work and studied it religiously to write my senior paper in high-school, I actually (*gasp*), like the films better. I find them much more accessible and much more emotionally investing, often because they did add elements to the characters that are sometimes absent in the books, and because everything extraneous was streamlined out of there. The focus on the central plot and characters makes it much more comprehensible, and the films are gorgeous visually (and musically), as well. Peter Jackson and crew did a brilliant job with those and I will never think otherwise. The spirit of Middle Earth is there, even if every teensy detail isn't the same.

Spirit is probably really what's important. Keep the heart of the story intact, and the film will have its own merit.

The problem, in fact, with the Twilight franchise as movies (imho)is that, instead of highlighting the soul of the books, they highlight...all the flaws. And the creepiness. And the vaguely hollow plot. You watch those, with Bella's internal monologue completely cut out (whether this is good or bad is debatable), and you realize how superficial and dysfunctional those characters really are. Ye gods, the Jacob imprinting scene, I can imagine.

Anyway, /rambling. :D I'm glad you had an awesome audience when you saw DH and I hope you enjoyed the movie!

Don't get me started on the LOTR movies...

Exposing the love/hate relationship fans have with beloved fantasy franchises...

Heh. Speaking of, I just rented M! NIGHT! SHAYMALAN'S! The Last Airbender!... and as a big fan of the TV series, I just have to say, all the HP fanboys out there complaining about inconsequential things like Harry's eyes being the wrong color - THEY CAN SUCK IT - because they've yet to learn what "ignoring canon" is all about.

I mean, damn. O_o

They even avoided giving Dumbledore a flashback girlfriend because JKR said she envisioned the character as gay. Never a hint in the books, yet the movie folks respected it as canon anyway. YAY!

I missed the first 20 minutes because my idiot ticket taker pointed me into the wrong theater. He was all, "Go right in there," and I walked in like a sheep. Didn't find out till the end of the movie that it was the 11:15 showing, not my 11:40. I was going to see it again tomorrow anyhow, so I guess I'll find out the beginning then. But sheee-it.

Oh Cleo I think as long as Twilight exist you are going to get quoted on it

Now I'm not checking this site till I watch HP I would had gone to the midnight showing but my mother in law is a fan and we are going to go together and she didn't liked the idea of getting there so late. Which at 70 I don't blame her.

Happy Pottermas!

In my theater, there was a group who had clearly not read the books. There started out making fun of everything but after some time they became as quiet as the rest of us until the scene of Dobby's death. At that point, at least two of that group went: NOOOOOOOOO, NOT DOBBY!


I wonder if I have an easier time of film-translations taking different choices to the books as a result of growing up with the Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy. That instilled in me the idea that you can have a single story told many ways, and each can be as valid as the other. Many people see the books as the definitive story - yet they weren't even the first version.

Of course the situation is a bit different with Harry Potter - Douglas Adams wrote the various adaptations himself. But at the same time JKR has been so closely involved (unusually so for the author) that they obviously have her stamp of approval as a way of telling her story.

So I don't mind when slight changes are made to the journey when you still reach the same destination. The much-dreaded dancing scene is an excellent example. In the book, it worked to have Harry tell Ron about their discomfort together in his absence. In the film, it worked to have them show through the dancing that no, Harry could not be a substitute for Ron. Two journeys, more-or-less the same destination. (I know that the message in the book is deeper than that in the film - but that's generally the case anyway. I thought the dancing scene added some needed levity which was then shot straight down by the look on Hermione's face at the end, creating an effective emotional punch.)

Yeah, I didn't actually mind that scene in context, because Kloves had so amped up the Harry/Hermione stuff through the whole series that they really did need to finally address that no, it wasn't going to turn out that way. "Ron, she's like my sister" may not have actually had a ring of truth to it after the way he had written those characters, so they had to do something else.

What I really liked about the Deathly Hallows film was that it was so respectful of canon. Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets were, too, but in a very obvious, literal way. I liked that finally, we were given a Potter film that successfully merged artistic license with canon fact. I LIKED that people who haven't read the books would probably not be able to keep up with this one. I LIKED that the pacing was adjusted and it's two movies so that we can see every little detail. I do have a list of things that I'm wondering why they left out, but they're all either really tiny details that probably don't matter, or small things that they could easily have moved to Part 2. I enjoyed this film, but I'm reserving final judgment until I see Part 2. If they messed that up, it will be monumentally, infuriatingly, offensively disappointing. But if they did a good job, it could be the most emotional and beautiful film experience of the franchise.

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