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Hannibal 1x06: "Entrée"
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OH MY SHIT

YOU GUYS

WHAT JUST HAPPENED


This episode is a thing of beauty and delight once you realize what they're doing. But since I'm largely staying away from spoilers, I didn't know, and thus I spent much of it shouting at the TV in a fit of fangirl pique. Bear with me, then.

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it reminds me of a line from a star wars short story "when you have a bantha as smart as that, you don't eat him all at once"

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I basically agree with all of this. I guess with Molly in the future there's no point in hoping that Will would end up with Alana or Beverly, for that matter, though. I JUST NEED HIM TO STOP HURTING MY HEART WITH HIS SADNESS. I'm also waiting for cannibal romance, because I want to know just how fucked up this show is willing to get. You throw Gillian Anderson into the mix and/or some kind of dominance play for Alana, and shit could start to happen.

(Crawford yelling is the best. I genuinely sit there and try to decide whether this or that line of dialogue in the recap merits bolding or not.)

I just keep remembering that the first officer into book!Lecter's basement turned around and immediately tendered his resignation and went into hotel management, or something. And now I'm wondering DOES HE STILL HAVE THE REST OF HER???

Yup! Hotel management. I feel like a horrible person for being like, "I want to see them do the basement." But I want to see them do the basement. Because I think there's a number of different ways you could go with that, and I want to see what they think he'd have down there--"what kind of crazy is he," as Crawford would say.

And now I'm wondering DOES HE STILL HAVE THE REST OF HER???

Yeah, my gaskets were so blown that I didn't even stop and do my usual I HAVE QUESTIONS outburst. Probably because I have too many questions to even know where to start. When did he make the recording? Did he talk to her or interrogate her? When did he kill her? How did he kill her? Did he kill her? Is she still alive somewhere with an arm cut off? Are she and Abigail going to fight over who gets the top bunk? If she's dead, I have to think he saved her entire body so he could decide who to torment later and how--which means he still has it, minus an arm. Which also means that he killed this girl and said to himself, "You know what, let's hold on to her, I might need to be the Absolute Worst a couple of years from now." Don't even get me started on the "did he eat anything" line of questioning. The only reason I'm handwaving all this at the moment is that I have a feeling we might find out more later.

Oh, not eyes! Oh, you poor thing. :-(

Is it sad that for the past 2 recapisodes I've been reading "Chesapeake Ripper" as "Cheesecake Ripper"? And spent a whole lot of time wondering what cheesecake had to do with murder aside from the food theme? And this coming from someone who's lived in Chesapeake for 15 years.

Hee! "Chesapeake" doesn't even look like a word to me anymore. I know exactly how it's spelled and yet it's looked wrong to me ever since the episode before this.

I wasn't sure exactly where they were going with this whole "bootleg Hannibal" thing, but once I got the shape of it all I could do was shake my head and go "oh, clever, clever show". And I think Izzard is in next week's episode too? That the meta delights may continue.

What I'm really wondering though is (besides the aforementioned meta delights)if the real purpose of this total restructuring is to allow for Will Graham participation of some sort once we get to SotL arc season. Just hear me out before setting that torch on fire! While Mads!Hannibal is fantastic and all, Hugh!Will is the other half of the show and a big part of the appeal of Hannibal. From a production point of view, to drop him simply because the book dicates it (the book we might not even be able to get the rights to no less, though your point about MGM being willing to play ball should the series prove that long term successful seems on point) is a waste. And besides, sometimes ignoring what the book says is a good thing! *coughhannibal'sendingwithcannibal!clariceseriouslythatcangofuckitselfcough* And should the series go that far, to completely remove one of the two main leads making up the foundation of the show's success to replace with a totally different, untried new lead is more risk than I've known any TV executive to take.

Mind this is all just speculation, but I feel betting on Will staying around in some function is not exactly Vegas odds.

Other thoughts:
-Freddie is still unmitigated awful and yet that's somehow part of the appeal? She's grown on me. Like people mushrooms.
-On a related note, Uh, guys? Have y'all checked on that confiscated Mushroom Whisperer farm lately? made me spit my drink out in horrified laughter.
-Whereas Lecter's 'he mad' face was just plain horrifying. Just an expression, but damn it was scary and you knew shit was going to go down hard. Mads Mikkelsen is just too fantastic for words, really.
-Kudos to the writing team for still keeping with the 'control and connections' theme for their killers. It's giving Hannibal such splendid consistency and that makes it so much easier to really sink in (and dream logic away what doesn't work).
-At this point is there anything Hannibal can't make out of people? Jesus.
-Gillian Anderson next week YES YES YES

the real purpose of this total restructuring is to allow for Will Graham participation of some sort once we get to SotL arc season. Just hear me out before setting that torch on fire!

Oh, I am all for this. I love Hugh Dancy on this show, and while I really wanted to see the first time he runs afoul of Lecter, I'm not really looking forward to the end of Red Dragon per se. And even though the show's named for Hannibal, he doesn't show up until the 30-minute mark in the first episode. So Will is the character who we attach to first. I don't want him to go, and it would be really interesting to see how his presence and relationships with the characters affect the storyline he wasn't originally there for.

Besides, we couldn't call it EMPATH AND CANNIBAL anymore if he left. They keep him on, we can at least call it EMPATH, LAMB & CANNIBAL or something.

Whereas Lecter's 'he mad' face was just plain horrifying. Just an expression, but damn it was scary and you knew shit was going to go down hard. Mads Mikkelsen is just too fantastic for words, really.

Seriously. And it just worked so well after the much lighter, hammier character.

Kudos to the writing team for still keeping with the 'control and connections' theme for their killers. It's giving Hannibal such splendid consistency

I'm still surprised (and pleased) that I wasn't just reading too much into that before. "I want to control people so I can connect with them" explains a lot.

I gotta say I really felt bad for Crawford this episode. The previous one portrayed him as kind of a hardass so it was surprising to see him so vulnerable.

Did Miriam's 'I can see anything' like freak anyone else out after the earlier eye gouge? What did Hannibal do to this poor woman? Do I even want to know?

OH JESUS I HADN'T THOUGHT OF THAT

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Huh, the Rorschach thing is really interesting. I just saw it as reminiscent of a blood splatter.

The Will and Jack thing about being awake is really interesting.

I thought of that on the very last draft of the recap, and I was disgusted with myself for not thinking of it sooner. :D

Since I'm just now watching everything on Hulu, knowing what happens in this episode makes the "Have you ever lost a pony, Jack?" conversation in episode two SO MUCH HORRIBLY WORSE. Because I was hearing it and going "Oh, Hannibal. You did NOT."

Here's something that'll really blow your mind, as someone pointed out elsewhere--think back to Silence of the Lambs. "Jack Crawford sent a trainee... to me?"

Two things I thought of while reading this: One: remember in an earlier episode when Hannibal and Jack are having dinner, and Hannibal asks Jack "Have you ever lost a pony?"

Second thing is, after knowing about Miriam and Jack's connection to her, Hannibal's line in SOTL "Jack Crawford sent a trainee... to ME." makes a lot more sense now.

UGH I LOVE THIS SHOW SO MUCH.

Jack Crawford's line about the Chesapeake Ripper being in his home where his wife sleeps, reminded me of Al Pacino' similar angry line in The Godfather Part II.

http://www.hark.com/clips/hmkvhjwcnf-you-heard-what-happened-in-my-home

My major thought during the last scene with Hannibal and Jack: "Is Hannibal drinking part of Miriam?"

(My brain, kill it now.)

Also, on the topic of Hannibal as Worst At Helping Ever -- one of his most insidius manipulative techniques is how he'll give a true insight or assessment and then link it to a false or twisted one. He's right about Miriam's death and Bella's cancer hitting Jack hard. But while Miriam's murder was the culmination of a lot of bad decisions, Bella's fate is more like a lightning strike out of a clear sky.

Hannibal is taking Jack's guilt over Miriam and linking to his helplessness about Bella. There is no rational basis for Jack to feel guilty or responsible for Bella being sick. But Hannibal is making sure that Jack does feel that way by making him explicity associate the two situations. He's poisoning Jack, trying to make sure that this wound will never heal.

It's exactly what he's doing with Will, too. It's hard to understand other people (or ourselves) without labels and definitions. Hannibal is all about giving "helpful" labels and definitions to people. THEY ARE ALWAYS THE WORST POSSIBLE ONES. Will is fragile and neurotic and practically a god-like killer himself. And once he hangs these handy labels on Will, other people take the human, lazy way and accept those labels and let them influence their understanding of him. (This is also a trap many fans fall into themselves in their "understanding" of Will, in my opinion. Hannibal has skin in this game and is not to be relied upon as an unbiased observer, people. Dammit!)

You know, I was actually just being flippant with "the brandy is probably people," but dammit, now I'm wondering. Because the thing that struck me about the final shot was the "savoring" look on his face.

Hannibal is all about giving "helpful" labels and definitions to people. THEY ARE ALWAYS THE WORST POSSIBLE ONES.

"Jack's not the devil." God, he is so the worst, bless his evil heart.

ohmahgah if they cancel I will be angry, and they won't like me when I'm angry. It's so rare that you have the perfect storm of good writing, interesting directing, and stellar actors all in one place, in a show that's so gleefully evil. I mean, with DVR everyone can watch everything! Why do ratings even matter anymore? Is it commercial revenue? Augh, please TV gods, let us have all the nice things.

I did love this episode, but I definitely enjoyed it more with your commentary on how it plays off the books and movies, since I know nothing about any of that stuff. And Eddie Izzard was aMAAAAYzing. I feel like I'm better able to understand Mads Mikkleson now, too? Maybe I'm just imagining it. His facial expressions are gold, especially that cat-with-a-canary one at the very end. CHILLS. Such glorious chills.

I'm just catching up with the series - so very late to the game - but yes, you can make brandy out of anything you can juice.

You're welcome. I'll be on tumblr looking at puppies if anyone needs me...