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The exchange on bluekermit's journal
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A poster emailed me to request that the Gogo - RWS - bluekermit exchange be posted in full, since she didn't think it was fair to RWS to only post part of it. As such, I've posted the full exchange as a separate entry, backdated to the same day as the original writeup to keep them together.

The entry is currently locked to where even I can't see it (remember, bluekermit specifically made it public at one point so people could see it), so I can't give you a link. I do have it Scrapbooked, if anyone just desperately needs screencaps.


sexion8 Date: November 28th, 2006 07:15 pm (UTC)
Seriously, I had to force myself to read those paragraphs a few times before I even believed that it was indeed RWS who wrote that.

She can call it "personal experience" all she wants, but what it comes down to is that she just regressed this nation 50 years with that racist shit.

Call an asshole an asshole--why should ethnic slurs even come into it? I am what's considered an "ethnic" person, so I also took high, HIGH offense to her post.

twilight_zen Date: November 28th, 2006 07:59 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry but THOSE MEN regressed the nation 50 years by pulling that fucking bullshit on a woman alone in a dark fucking parking lot. They call themselves the N word, and they targeted me and clearly wanted to scare me and were saying a whole lot of things I didn't even post that would scare the hell out of anyone here. So excuse me if a racial epithet came into my mind as they were calling themselves it. Maybe they shouldn't have done what they did. Their behavior was far from excusable, and that my dear is what sets back this nation in the battle against racism.

People do not have the right to terrorize or sexually harrass others, and when they are a gang of people? Even worse! That you deem what they did acceptable and make like I'm the horrible person in this instance shows how blinded you are to their actions.

Get off your high fucking horse. The fact that you would defend such behavior is ridiculous. SO please do fuck off, you bitch!

[The following two comments are accompanied by an icon of Gogo herself (I would assume) giving the finger.]

sexion8 Date: November 28th, 2006 08:10 pm (UTC)
Ignorance really does breed ignorance, I see. Thank you--you just made me feel a WHOLE lot better about my stance.

sexion8 Date: November 28th, 2006 08:21 pm (UTC)
Comments are now screened, so I'll reply here:

Up your dosage of whatever crack you're on, then I'll start to make sense.

MAYBE.

twilight_zen Date: November 28th, 2006 08:38 pm (UTC)
You think I don't feel awful about all this? I never, ever, ever meant to offend anyone. I don't think I'm a racist, but maybe I am. I never thought anything like that until that incident in the parking lot. And it sickened me that I had that thought. But I had for a reason. They scared me, and I was already going through PTSD for having been raped two years ealier.

So you know what, you're absolutely right. It was a bad/racist thought when I thought it, and it still bugs me that I did think it. But I can't change anything about any of this. I can't change what happened or what I posted. And I don't think an apology would fix it because everyone is so enraged at me.

I was being honest in that thread, and I hurt a lot of people, which I cried about plenty after because I never meant that. And of all the people I hurt, I felt the worst that I hurt you because I thought of you as a friend. I am truly sorry for that. But I cannot fix this. I don't even know how to try. I wish that moment never happened because something in me changed that night, and now I am apparently a person who profiles and judges because I need to always feel safe.

I deleted those posts because I felt awful after I realized how hurt people were by it. So yeah, I'm a racists ass. I'm sorry I hurt you and everyone else involved.

sexion8
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ETA: bluekermit has contributed a screencap of Gogo's deleted comment.

bluekermit Date: November 29th, 2006 12:15 am (UTC)
Actually, if you had bothered to actually, you know, READ MY JOURNAL, you'd know I'm going thru an intense RL situation. And that I wasn't even here.

And, oh look, apparently you deleted your own post.

sexion8 Date: November 29th, 2006 08:18 am (UTC)
I deleted the post because I'm not continuing this stupidity here.

As for whatever you're going through in RL, I am sorry for it. Hope it all works out for you.

bluekermit Date: November 29th, 2006 12:16 am (UTC)
Screened it yourself?

twilight_zen Date: November 29th, 2006 12:56 am (UTC)
I'm deleting my apology because that bitch doesn't deserve it.

bluekermit Date: November 29th, 2006 01:04 am (UTC)
It'll do nothing, because here's what she wrote to me:

Which is why I copy/pasted this thread in it's entirety to show everyone interested in this train wreck.

I'd like to know WHERE this showing is taking place, and am half willing to just post the screen caps of both my recent comments page and the comment notification emails.

twilight_zen Date: November 29th, 2006 01:44 am (UTC)
If she's getting that insane over my posts, then that's a whole lot of anger at what? Some posts that she could just forget about? Total insanity and verging on stalkery now. Even I've dropped it and was just reading my flist when I saw there were more posts here.

Let her post it. Who cares? Just proving how right I was about a whole lot of things.

The showing is probably taking place at some person's LJs where the initial hate threads about me were started. You know, it's reached a level of junior high immaturity. Grow the fuck up, I say.


Fin.


Back to the writeup.


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In order for this exchange to be complete, you lack the post that Sexion8 herself admits to have deleted (I have no idea why it's showing with a screened label).


The entry is currently locked to where even I can't see it (remember, bluekermit specifically made it public at one point so people could see it)

I took it from public because of the requests on the sf_lj comm for this not to end up on fandowm_wank, and explained it in a post that is still public. I don't think I really have to justify why you can't see my locked posts.


I don't think you have to justify it either. I'm just stating what the situation is. After we (the mods. Someone got on to me for the constant "we" groupspeak) discussed the possibility of Fandom Wank, we realized that it was probably going to be inevitable if we wanted 1800 people to have an unlocked, public explanation as to what happened and why, so we've kind of given up on trying not to be wanked. I'm just saying, this is what happened, and I'm trying to include as many sides of as possible. I'll add the screencap to the appendix entry.

There goes the flipping-the-bird icon. *points*

As for the rest of it, thank you, Cleo, for posting everything. I feel a whole lot better that now Team RWS can't say we didn't play fair.


(P.S.) The comment I made about her upping her dosage of crack:

RWS made the reply of "That comment doesn't make any sense" when I wrote the previous comment of "Ignorance really does breed ignorance, I see."

Just to clarify some more. :)

You know, you are the one I have the biggest beef with, because you went to my lj only for this, and started off immediately with very strong language and acting like a bull in a china shop. It was a specially filtered post at the time, just for the SFers on my flist, with a personal purpose that you completely disregarded, and simply used it as an arena for your own venting and name calling. Other people took advantage of it, but you?

For your participation in my journal, I certainly can not call *you* fair.

Just to clarify, Gogo's referring to a conversation she and I had about how the account needed to be warts-and-all in order to be fair. And she agreed, which is why she told me I could post any comment of hers that I needed or wanted. I'm not saying this to question your analysis here; I'm just saying, that's what I personally mean by "fair."

Yeah, buy I object to her including herself in that "we"; you know she's ran with her mouth often on this, and sometimes in public, and because I'm pissed off from her actions in my lj (and amused by those in other places), I still can't let go of going "think before you open your mouth again, young lady".

Let go or don't, I hardly care.

1.) If you didn't want active participation in your journal entry about this whole 10-car pile-up, you should've disabled comments.

2.) I never once used strong language anywhere in your journal, as Cleo's recap above can attest. Trust me, your page would've turned blue if I did. And you'll notice I wasn't the one calling anyone the BEE WORD. (Twice, even.) I simply displayed my shock and disgust at unbelievable bigotry.

3.) You're really inexplicable, you know that? I mean, tweety birds-flying-around-your-head crazy. It's quite something to witness.

And I'm done here. Please feel free to post in my journal and continue whatever the voices are commanding you, but I will not sully Miss Cleo's journal with nonsense.

Have a great day!

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