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IT'S POLL TIME
serafina
cleolinda
Okay, I want to run an experiment here. But first, a semi-unrelated explanation:

It's a personality test! Everyone loves personality tests!Collapse )

ETA: "Hey, you know those Myers-Briggs tests?"

MY MOTHER: "YES!"

"Wow, okay. So I took one again, I'd forgotten what I was, and I'm an INFP."

MY MOTHER: "YOU ARE SO AN INFP."

"See? I'm saying."

MY MOTHER: "I AM AN ENTJ! I am like the epitome of an ENTJ. And that's why I work in HR."

"Oh, well. Okay then."



 
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Hey Cleo, I am a psychology researcher and stats whiz, so if you want me to knock up a chi-square on that last one to tell you if you have a significant result (i.e. find out what the likelihood is you have a result by chance), I'd be happy to!

P.S. I was an INFP as a teenager (I come up INFJ now) and I am a bit of an empath.

I have no idea what a chi-square is, but that sounds interesting!

I have long known I'm an INFP (although I'm not quite as concrete with the NF, they are more dominant) and I definitely qualify as an empath as that article describes it. However, I also have struggled with depression and anxiety for a very long time, and the way I deal with the negative stuff now is by talking to my therapist. Do many INFPs have issues with depression and anxiety? (Chicken or the egg?) I really don't know.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm INFP and I do! I've had depression and anxiety since I was at least 14 (possibly earlier, maybe as early as 11), and PTSD since I was 18 (but I tested as INFP before that).

I'm a super intense INFP, but I only have a few, almost quirky touches of empath-like behavior. I think I'm just practiced at keeping my own boundaries up, because I know how unpleasant it can be to feel compelled to care.

But...
1. People impulsively open up to me. Rarely strangers, but often casual acquaintances. Sometimes they'll even express puzzlement to me, as they're telling me personal details, that we're even talking...

2. I often come across individuals with emotional issues - especially ones who are good at hiding them - for whom I feel intense protective feelings that kind of vibe "motherly". Sometimes I do not even *like* these people, but the feelings are still intense.

3. When I was younger (childhood into early teenage years) I would frequently experience intense bouts of emotion watching emotional tv programs or films. Like situations where I'd be unable to breathe or feel physically ill if someone was in pain. (I've mostly been able to get past this as an adult.)

4. I'm quite good at reading people, and connecting with them, despite being a 95% "I" on Introversion. I'm entirely self-reliant and enjoy solitude, but pretty damn perceptive.

Despite this, I said, "Not empath" on the poll, because, if anything, I'd consider myself a "recovered empath" more than anything, because I've mostly learned to leash those impulses, and for the better.

ETA: Also, as I mentioned on Twitter, the population of INFPs on LJ and in fandom in general is absolutely mind-boggling, in my experience. I've seen polls on fandom comms before, and seen results of 30%+ INFPs out of 100+ responses, which is quite statistically improbable.

Edited at 2011-04-11 02:57 am (UTC)

#1 happens to me all the time. Complete strangers will start talking to me at bus stops - normally to ask if a bus is due, or something like that - and end up telling me everything. It's the weirdest thing.

How interesting! I am supposedly and INFP too, but I don't think I'm much of an empath, or if I am, I have a pretty thick shield. Maybe too thick, because I have a fear of intimacy you wouldn't believe.

I'm an ENFP, but the E is really 50-50 so I can be quite on the I side on occasion.

As for empath...I've got some of the traits, mostly that I do react very viscerally to other people's pain, whether in person or on screen (I can't watch a lot of medical drama for that reason). Your guidelines said something about being bipolar without the biology - well I *am* bipolar *with* the biology, so while I do often have bouts of sudden unexplained emotion it's never quite clear whether it's the biochemistry or something else.

It sounds like you might have mirror-touch synaesthesia: http://www.livescience.com/1628-study-people-literally-feel-pain.html
(That's my supervisor's work, incidentally... If you do have mirror-touch he'd probably like to hear from you!)

WEird. I'm ENTJ but tick the empath buttons. OMG, I am a speshul snowflake! ;) I think my empathy is actually more about feeling protective of friends.

Definitely ISTJ. It's in my userinfo. *sage nod* And I don't think I'm an empath. If I am, I'm a terrible one. I find people kind of fascinating and I'm always interested in why they do what they do--that's, like, the thesis of my entire life--but I definitely have major shields and have a humongous loner/anti-social side and am just generally kind of creepy sometimes.

...Er, since you asked.

Edited at 2011-04-11 03:05 am (UTC)

I'm also a ISTJ. Let's be alone, anti-social, and creepy together. :D

I'm always split between INTJ/INTP. I am apparently partly an empath, but I think it's mostly due to my social anxiety rather than picking up on others' emotions.

When I tested in high school I was INFP but when I tested again in college I was INFJ and ever since then I've identified strongly with INFJ. When I was younger I was highly emphathetic to the point where I'd cry during sad songs because the persons singing them was sad. As I got older I had to toughen up (especially as an actor.) Now I rely more on my reason then my empathy. I can understand that Sally Sue is upset because she wants to be standing close to the camera but she was placed far away from the camera, but logically I know that Sally Sue needs to get over it because it's not personal.

I've actually become good at turning the empathy off after a certain point. For example I can understand why someone might be feeling upset but if they're being unreasonable about it, it's not worth my energy to engage in the situation.

Having read the description earlier, you are TOTALLY an INFP Healer person. (Also: a Doper Person.) I didn't feel like my ISTP description matched me very well, so I don't think I'm on the chart, but I don't think the chart is bullshit either -- it's just, there are only so many types, right? It's hard to imagine that any simple-minded test is going to adequately encode every person on Earth. But that doesn't mean it might not work for a fair fraction of them, so it could be useful if you're one of the standard types. Anyway, TO THE LITERATURE!

ETA: It looks like the majority of people who read this journal are Masterminds. I think we should work up some kind of James Bond/Austen Powers deal and take over the internet.

Edited at 2011-04-11 03:16 am (UTC)

I think it's one of those things where it's not the end-all be-all, but if you can find something that resonates with you, then it can help you. Although, yeah, I get ticked off when there's a list of types and none of them sound like me. It's like that rack you'll see at some random store with the personalized name plates or whatever and "Lauren" is never there, MAYBE "Laura," and I want to kick it for not having my name too.

Um. That made sense in my head.

Having read the description earlier, you are TOTALLY an INFP Healer person

I KNOW RIGHT? I mean, ridiculously so.

All I know is that I'm INFP, empathic, been that way all my life, and I still haven't managed to control it well. And I just turned 32.

It's nice when I can make my friends feel better just by holding them, though.

I am not an INFP, and never have been to my recollection, but I do self-identify with a lot of the bullet points in the articles about what make up an empath. Particularly the list from HuffPo. Even so, I did not vote that I was an empath in the poll, because I have been told by a lot of people that they don't think I AM empathetic, and so this post has given me a lot to reflect on. I'm thinking very hard about the intersection between who we think we are and who other people think we are. I wrote up a post about it, which is here. I'm now wondering if there are a lot of people who think the people around them would give them different Myers-Briggs denotations than they'd give themselves, and how that makes them feel. I'm not gonna lie, it's kind of thrown me into a tumult.

I find it interesting that so many people are identifying as INTJ/INFJ given that both of them are supposed to be relatively rare (1-4% and 1-3% respectively). I wobble between the two but I think if it weren't for my struggles with depression - which hinders my ability to be as decisive as an INTJ is supposed to be - I'd be more strongly a T than an F.

I wonder if people who hang out in fandom/on the internet are more likely to be those types.

Actually, it looks like what's common is I_TJ and I_FJ with N and S represented fairly evenly, and then INFPs after those.

Now I am really curious as to what kind of results you'd get with a larger survey of people who participate in fandom compared to a survey of people who hang out on the internet but not in fandom, with the general population as a control/reference point.

eta: Also, I put that I was an empath mainly because of the questions about how you feel in crowds, but I definitely don't feel like I have the special snowflake psychic powers either, lol.

Edited at 2011-04-11 03:28 am (UTC)

I am always so borderline on these damn things. Also, apparently I am like Lance Armstrong, Donald Rumsfeld, and Greta Garbo (?!).

I register as INTJ or INFJ depending on the quiz, I find. Apparently I straddle the line between T/F very easily.

I wasn't sure how to mark the empath thing because some of the qualifications are true for me and others aren't. Yes, I feel the emotions of others, I sense what they're really saying, people open up to me/comment on how I am a great listener, and I do pick up "vibes" from crowds, but I don't know if that's specifically me being an empath or me having things in common with empaths, as it were. The ol' "All apples are fruits, but not all fruits are apples" issue, so to speak.